My son is very picky about shoes. He needs loafers for his high school uniform. He tried about a dozen pairs. These were the only ones he liked. He wore them for months and liked them even more once they were broken in. He has to wear them all day, including lots of walking. Once he outgrew them we went ahead and bought the next size up. He's on his third pair now. These are keepers. My only complaint is no arch support, but he doesn't seem to notice that.